Comments on: warhawks and doves http://confusion.cc/2002/09/25/warhawks-and-doves/ "I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes." -- Uncle Walt Tue, 24 May 2011 17:48:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: l_strange http://confusion.cc/2002/09/25/warhawks-and-doves/comment-page-1/#comment-80 l_strange Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://confusion.cc/blog/?p=102#comment-80 ARG! Politics. Complete bastards. I don't like Gore's position and more than Bush/Limbaugh/Cheney's position. It's not that I absolutely dissagree with them (in fact, I do agree with Gore, and think that Limbaugh really needs to learn some respect for freedom), but that I sense a lack of insencarity. Things get filters, refined, writen up, tested and changed, JUST so it makes the best impact. Give me a man who makes clear, personal statement I can agree with. Hell, people love the West Wing president for that. (I wonder how many people Bush could alienate from the general populous if we knew him in that respect!). Any which way though, I am against this "war", either with Iraq or with terrorism. The war on (with?) terrorism has just fanned out too much ot be ordered and clear (wasn't that our issue with Korea and Vietnam?). As for Iraq... what the hell? Show clear proof that Iraq is up to something, or else shut the fuck up. ARG! Politics. Complete bastards. I don’t like Gore’s position and more than Bush/Limbaugh/Cheney’s position. It’s not that I absolutely dissagree with them (in fact, I do agree with Gore, and think that Limbaugh really needs to learn some respect for freedom), but that I sense a lack of insencarity. Things get filters, refined, writen up, tested and changed, JUST so it makes the best impact. Give me a man who makes clear, personal statement I can agree with. Hell, people love the West Wing president for that. (I wonder how many people Bush could alienate from the general populous if we knew him in that respect!).

Any which way though, I am against this “war”, either with Iraq or with terrorism. The war on (with?) terrorism has just fanned out too much ot be ordered and clear (wasn’t that our issue with Korea and Vietnam?). As for Iraq… what the hell? Show clear proof that Iraq is up to something, or else shut the fuck up.

]]> By: beggs http://confusion.cc/2002/09/25/warhawks-and-doves/comment-page-1/#comment-81 beggs Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://confusion.cc/blog/?p=102#comment-81 Politics as usual! It's always going to be politically motivated no matter how sincere the politician is, simply because they are politicians. My whole thing is that we need more debate, more desertion so that there is a useful dialog over the whole thing not an accepting silence from those of a different mind. As for Pres. Bartlet on the West Wing; I would vote for Martin Sheen as long as he runs for President as Bartlet and lets Aaron Sorkinson (sp?) write all his speeches. As for Iraq... I understand why they don't show the proof to the general public -- it would be on CNN in 30 seconds and Saddam could see it just like everyone else, then he just moves the shit. I think they should show the proof to a closed session of the Security Council. Or to individual leaders like they did the Al Quida stuff. If they're not willing to do that, then I have doubts that there is any clear evidence. Anyway, it's all fucked up and if we bomb Iraq, Iraq bombs Israel and Israel bombs the whole middle east, then Iraq bombs India, and Pakistan and they bomb each other, then... you getting my drift? World War III all because Bush wants to play party politics and get re-elected, and since the economy sucks he needs a war, but the "war on terrorism" is not hot enough... he needs a real war! Politics as usual! It’s always going to be politically motivated no matter how sincere the politician is, simply because they are politicians. My whole thing is that we need more debate, more desertion so that there is a useful dialog over the whole thing not an accepting silence from those of a different mind. As for Pres. Bartlet on the West Wing; I would vote for Martin Sheen as long as he runs for President as Bartlet and lets Aaron Sorkinson (sp?) write all his speeches. As for Iraq… I understand why they don’t show the proof to the general public — it would be on CNN in 30 seconds and Saddam could see it just like everyone else, then he just moves the shit. I think they should show the proof to a closed session of the Security Council. Or to individual leaders like they did the Al Quida stuff. If they’re not willing to do that, then I have doubts that there is any clear evidence. Anyway, it’s all fucked up and if we bomb Iraq, Iraq bombs Israel and Israel bombs the whole middle east, then Iraq bombs India, and Pakistan and they bomb each other, then… you getting my drift? World War III all because Bush wants to play party politics and get re-elected, and since the economy sucks he needs a war, but the “war on terrorism” is not hot enough… he needs a real war!

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