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		<title>By: beggs</title>
		<link>http://confusion.cc/2008/02/12/the-god-delusion/comment-page-1/#comment-3977</link>
		<dc:creator>beggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 06:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not that I believe that Dawkins would not respect my choice to be a vegetarian, and I am open to debating that choice.  What put me off a bit in the book was the level of hostility Dawkins attacks religious beliefs with.  I would not want a meat crazed Akin&#039;s diet apostle to attack my vegetarianism with the same level of open hatred and hostility not because it would hurt my feelings or I can&#039;t defend that choice or because I am not comfortable with it and it&#039;s consequences.  I would not want to deal with the attach because that person is not worth dealing with at all, they are not open to new ideas or debate.  This is of course the very problem in dealing with religion -- it&#039;s incapable of evolving it&#039;s beliefs and systems -- change is anathama to religions.

I agree 100% with Dawkins&#039; belief that we should be able to openly talk about and debate religion and religious beliefs without all the politically correct dancing around our own views for fear of hurting someone else&#039;s feelings.  In the book Dawkins seems to be going out of his way to hurt peoples feelings which is swinging the pendulum too far the other way for me.  Perhaps it is what is needed to reset the status quo but I&#039;m uncomfortable standing behind Dawkins and saying &#039;this is how we should all act,&#039; based on his attitude in the book.  I see it as evidence that he is in part practicing something too similar to what fundamentalist religious zealots believe and practice.  Dawkins&#039; goal is, in my opinion, a worthy one, one I hope comes to pass in my lifetime though I hold out little hope.  I&#039;m just not willing to say that the ends justify the attitude yet.

To be honest I find Dawkins must easier to listen to (see for instance his talks on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ted.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;TED&lt;/a&gt; [ted.com], &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/113&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here talking about atheism&lt;/a&gt; [ted.com] and &lt;a href=&quot;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here on the strangeness of science&lt;/a&gt; [ted.com]) than to read.  Maybe the hostility came across too close as hate in the book when you don&#039;t have the polite British accent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not that I believe that Dawkins would not respect my choice to be a vegetarian, and I am open to debating that choice.  What put me off a bit in the book was the level of hostility Dawkins attacks religious beliefs with.  I would not want a meat crazed Akin&#8217;s diet apostle to attack my vegetarianism with the same level of open hatred and hostility not because it would hurt my feelings or I can&#8217;t defend that choice or because I am not comfortable with it and it&#8217;s consequences.  I would not want to deal with the attach because that person is not worth dealing with at all, they are not open to new ideas or debate.  This is of course the very problem in dealing with religion &#8212; it&#8217;s incapable of evolving it&#8217;s beliefs and systems &#8212; change is anathama to religions.</p>
<p>I agree 100% with Dawkins&#8217; belief that we should be able to openly talk about and debate religion and religious beliefs without all the politically correct dancing around our own views for fear of hurting someone else&#8217;s feelings.  In the book Dawkins seems to be going out of his way to hurt peoples feelings which is swinging the pendulum too far the other way for me.  Perhaps it is what is needed to reset the status quo but I&#8217;m uncomfortable standing behind Dawkins and saying &#8216;this is how we should all act,&#8217; based on his attitude in the book.  I see it as evidence that he is in part practicing something too similar to what fundamentalist religious zealots believe and practice.  Dawkins&#8217; goal is, in my opinion, a worthy one, one I hope comes to pass in my lifetime though I hold out little hope.  I&#8217;m just not willing to say that the ends justify the attitude yet.</p>
<p>To be honest I find Dawkins must easier to listen to (see for instance his talks on <a href="http://www.ted.com" rel="nofollow">TED</a> [ted.com], <a href="http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/113" rel="nofollow">here talking about atheism</a> [ted.com] and <a href="" rel="nofollow">here on the strangeness of science</a> [ted.com]) than to read.  Maybe the hostility came across too close as hate in the book when you don&#8217;t have the polite British accent.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 15:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a vegan atheist I found no problems with The God Delusion in respect to my eating habits.

I don&#039;t think Dawkins is saying we should not respect people&#039;s beliefs, only those that can not be examined in an impartial way and judged whether they are dogma or evidence based.

Dawkins is not a vegetarian but I would be surprised if he lumps vegetarianism in with the same mind set as Catholicism etc. The claims made by vegetarians for why they follow an animal free diet (health, environmental and compassion) have plenty of evidence to demonstrate that such concerns are neither irrational or pointless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a vegan atheist I found no problems with The God Delusion in respect to my eating habits.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think Dawkins is saying we should not respect people&#8217;s beliefs, only those that can not be examined in an impartial way and judged whether they are dogma or evidence based.</p>
<p>Dawkins is not a vegetarian but I would be surprised if he lumps vegetarianism in with the same mind set as Catholicism etc. The claims made by vegetarians for why they follow an animal free diet (health, environmental and compassion) have plenty of evidence to demonstrate that such concerns are neither irrational or pointless.</p>
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